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		<title>By: Lorenzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorenzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 06:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She reminds me of Sarah Palin for some reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She reminds me of Sarah Palin for some reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon Whitley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shannon Whitley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You bring up a great point, Mike.  I honestly wish she would have had better professional help (see psychiatric) before this happened, but now that it has, she really deserves to have someone to help her navigate through the court of public opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You bring up a great point, Mike.  I honestly wish she would have had better professional help (see psychiatric) before this happened, but now that it has, she really deserves to have someone to help her navigate through the court of public opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Haslam &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Social Media Top Five: Jornalist POV, Incivility, and PR Agencies Really Doing Social Media?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Haslam &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Social Media Top Five: Jornalist POV, Incivility, and PR Agencies Really Doing Social Media?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] PR Rep for Octuplets&#8217; Mother Get Death Threats Just as there is no boundary, apparently, for who should hire PR representation, there is no reason at all to take on a client that would get you death threats. Right? I suppose there are exceptions but this is far from one of them. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] PR Rep for Octuplets&#8217; Mother Get Death Threats Just as there is no boundary, apparently, for who should hire PR representation, there is no reason at all to take on a client that would get you death threats. Right? I suppose there are exceptions but this is far from one of them. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: KadetComm (Ken Kadet)</title>
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		<dc:creator>KadetComm (Ken Kadet)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 04:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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RT @mjkeliher:..you&#039;re entitled to the services of legal counsel...what if you&#039;re thrust into the court of public opinion? [link to post]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; - Posted using Chat Catcher </description>
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RT @mjkeliher:..you&#8217;re entitled to the services of legal counsel&#8230;what if you&#8217;re thrust into the court of public opinion? [link to post]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Keliher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Keliher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 04:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beyond being a smart thing to do -- and apparently this is not obvious -- obtaining sound communications counsel is not an act that justifies death threats.

Thanks for stopping by, Ken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beyond being a smart thing to do &#8212; and apparently this is not obvious &#8212; obtaining sound communications counsel is not an act that justifies death threats.</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by, Ken.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Kadet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Kadet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 04:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post and great topic ... something a point that I think is a great debate for PR if it ever wants to define itself as a profession.  

I agree with the point about selecting clients well, and especially appreciate the instinct of Joann Killeen that this woman just needed help managing the media in with an extraordinary circumstance. 

Because for organizations and, at times, individuals, media relations is a management function.  And while the ability to manage it well doesn&#039;t require constitutional protection or a bar exam, it does require a level of insight, sound judgment, experience and  familiarity with journalism and the media environment that does not come naturally for most organizations or citizens.  

Point being, obtaining sound communications counsel and assistance is a smart thing to do, it&#039;s an essential function to manage, and -- particularly in a crisis -- it&#039;s much better handled by a professional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post and great topic &#8230; something a point that I think is a great debate for PR if it ever wants to define itself as a profession.  </p>
<p>I agree with the point about selecting clients well, and especially appreciate the instinct of Joann Killeen that this woman just needed help managing the media in with an extraordinary circumstance. </p>
<p>Because for organizations and, at times, individuals, media relations is a management function.  And while the ability to manage it well doesn&#8217;t require constitutional protection or a bar exam, it does require a level of insight, sound judgment, experience and  familiarity with journalism and the media environment that does not come naturally for most organizations or citizens.  </p>
<p>Point being, obtaining sound communications counsel and assistance is a smart thing to do, it&#8217;s an essential function to manage, and &#8212; particularly in a crisis &#8212; it&#8217;s much better handled by a professional.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Keliher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Keliher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 04:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the thoughtful comment, Bill. You bring up a good point: making smart choices about who we&#039;re comfortable representing. That will vary from person to person, however; I imagine that, too, is somewhat comparable to practicing law.

You touch on another important factor to consider, at least in terms of how our choice in clients reflects on our own reputations -- that is, the intent of the PR pro herself. And though I&#039;m far less familiar with Joann Killeen than it seems you are, I share your perception of her, her work and her intent. That makes this situation all the more unfortunate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the thoughtful comment, Bill. You bring up a good point: making smart choices about who we&#8217;re comfortable representing. That will vary from person to person, however; I imagine that, too, is somewhat comparable to practicing law.</p>
<p>You touch on another important factor to consider, at least in terms of how our choice in clients reflects on our own reputations &#8212; that is, the intent of the PR pro herself. And though I&#8217;m far less familiar with Joann Killeen than it seems you are, I share your perception of her, her work and her intent. That makes this situation all the more unfortunate.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Sledzik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Sledzik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 03:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

I have a post on this about half written, and it hinges on the ethics of how we select our clients. Whom we choose to represent tends to shape our professional reputations.

I&#039;m not one who believes just anyone &quot;deserves&quot; PR representation (in the same sense as legal counsel). If that were the case, someone among us might have represent terrorist group or serial killers. Those are extreme examples, but should illustrate my point. We don&#039;t want to be shilling for Satan.

In her interview with Larry King, Joann Killeen, Nadya Suleman&#039;s PR counsel, said she took on the project because she felt this young woman needed someone to help her navigate the media circus. Joann said didn&#039;t charge a fee and has not profited at all from the account. I believe her.

As she also points out, Nadya didn&#039;t PLAN to have 8 kids. The fertility doctor who handled her other pregnancies used the same procedure each time. One can question the doc&#039;s ethics, to be sure, but there was no plan for a multiple birth. I&#039;m not condoning what Nadya did, as it&#039;s a tad deviant, but it wasn&#039;t part of some diabolical plot to double the size of her family and bleed the social welfare system.

So in the end, I agree with you. Is it so crazy to think that Joann Killeen, a mother and grandmother herself, really wanted to do something to help these kids and their mom? For her troubles, she received numerous death threats along with the hateful comments of bloggers and media pundits -- all undeserved.

I should tell you that I&#039;ve know Joann for more than a decade through out involvement in PRSA. She is a respected PR professional, not some carnival publicist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>I have a post on this about half written, and it hinges on the ethics of how we select our clients. Whom we choose to represent tends to shape our professional reputations.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not one who believes just anyone &#8220;deserves&#8221; PR representation (in the same sense as legal counsel). If that were the case, someone among us might have represent terrorist group or serial killers. Those are extreme examples, but should illustrate my point. We don&#8217;t want to be shilling for Satan.</p>
<p>In her interview with Larry King, Joann Killeen, Nadya Suleman&#8217;s PR counsel, said she took on the project because she felt this young woman needed someone to help her navigate the media circus. Joann said didn&#8217;t charge a fee and has not profited at all from the account. I believe her.</p>
<p>As she also points out, Nadya didn&#8217;t PLAN to have 8 kids. The fertility doctor who handled her other pregnancies used the same procedure each time. One can question the doc&#8217;s ethics, to be sure, but there was no plan for a multiple birth. I&#8217;m not condoning what Nadya did, as it&#8217;s a tad deviant, but it wasn&#8217;t part of some diabolical plot to double the size of her family and bleed the social welfare system.</p>
<p>So in the end, I agree with you. Is it so crazy to think that Joann Killeen, a mother and grandmother herself, really wanted to do something to help these kids and their mom? For her troubles, she received numerous death threats along with the hateful comments of bloggers and media pundits &#8212; all undeserved.</p>
<p>I should tell you that I&#8217;ve know Joann for more than a decade through out involvement in PRSA. She is a respected PR professional, not some carnival publicist.</p>
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