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	<title>Comments on: Why journalism school is the right place for PR students</title>
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		<title>By: Mike Keliher</title>
		<link>http://www.unjournalism.com/2008/12/30/why-journalism-school-is-the-right-place-for-pr-students/comment-page-1/#comment-30381</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Keliher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the thoughtful comment. &quot;Pink and red are so similar in color that when put together they just clash&quot; is a brilliant observation in this context.

Journalism, as a broad discipline, does run into issues of bias, real or perceived. PR, rather understandably, runs into at least as much, if not more. But just like people dislike &quot;politicians&quot; but love their own elected representatives, it&#039;s up to each of us to build our own reputations and, by extension, the reputations of our clients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the thoughtful comment. &#8220;Pink and red are so similar in color that when put together they just clash&#8221; is a brilliant observation in this context.</p>
<p>Journalism, as a broad discipline, does run into issues of bias, real or perceived. PR, rather understandably, runs into at least as much, if not more. But just like people dislike &#8220;politicians&#8221; but love their own elected representatives, it&#8217;s up to each of us to build our own reputations and, by extension, the reputations of our clients.</p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am currently a journalism student and staff writer for my university&#039;s newspaper. Not only do I love writing, I value journalism ethics and enjoy the reporting process.

I do, however, realize that the uncertain future of print journalism has a definite impact on my career path. So, I&#039;m considering entering the PR field after graduation.

Right now, I am enrolled in a PR course and multiple journalism courses. In addition to my sports journalism experience at the newspaper, I also volunteer at the PR department of the university&#039;s athletic department. I can honestly say EVERY DAY that I go to the SAME locations, press conferences etc. with both jobs. The jobs are in direct relation to each other. I see more similarities than differences between the two. That&#039;s why there is such hostility between the two industries. Pink and red are so similar in color that when put together they just clash. Majors don&#039;t have to be identical to be in the same college. 

My mother, a dedicated journalist since college, was laid off this year when the newspaper cut her section. A couple months later she was hired by the PR department of a well-respected organization. 

The senior associate at the PR department immediately rejected an internship application for one reason: the person applying was a business major. He said he wouldn&#039;t even consider the candidate because the person wouldn&#039;t be able to write well. 

With all this talk of PR taking over journalism&#039;s role in providing information, it&#039;s gotta&#039; make you consider what the public will think: If they think journalism is biased, what will they think of the PR dept. being the only provider of their company&#039;s information? 

And isn&#039;t the purpose of PR to present MUTUALLY beneficial relations to the PUBLIC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am currently a journalism student and staff writer for my university&#8217;s newspaper. Not only do I love writing, I value journalism ethics and enjoy the reporting process.</p>
<p>I do, however, realize that the uncertain future of print journalism has a definite impact on my career path. So, I&#8217;m considering entering the PR field after graduation.</p>
<p>Right now, I am enrolled in a PR course and multiple journalism courses. In addition to my sports journalism experience at the newspaper, I also volunteer at the PR department of the university&#8217;s athletic department. I can honestly say EVERY DAY that I go to the SAME locations, press conferences etc. with both jobs. The jobs are in direct relation to each other. I see more similarities than differences between the two. That&#8217;s why there is such hostility between the two industries. Pink and red are so similar in color that when put together they just clash. Majors don&#8217;t have to be identical to be in the same college. </p>
<p>My mother, a dedicated journalist since college, was laid off this year when the newspaper cut her section. A couple months later she was hired by the PR department of a well-respected organization. </p>
<p>The senior associate at the PR department immediately rejected an internship application for one reason: the person applying was a business major. He said he wouldn&#8217;t even consider the candidate because the person wouldn&#8217;t be able to write well. </p>
<p>With all this talk of PR taking over journalism&#8217;s role in providing information, it&#8217;s gotta&#8217; make you consider what the public will think: If they think journalism is biased, what will they think of the PR dept. being the only provider of their company&#8217;s information? </p>
<p>And isn&#8217;t the purpose of PR to present MUTUALLY beneficial relations to the PUBLIC?</p>
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		<title>By: Should PR be in the journalism school? &#171; PR Campaigns - The blog</title>
		<link>http://www.unjournalism.com/2008/12/30/why-journalism-school-is-the-right-place-for-pr-students/comment-page-1/#comment-30376</link>
		<dc:creator>Should PR be in the journalism school? &#171; PR Campaigns - The blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mike Keliher wrote a blog to counter Conrad’s argument. As a part of his post, he writes, “The future of PR is a return to what should have always been our focus: telling stories effectively, communicating and interacting with people. It’s not a business function; it’s a human function.” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mike Keliher wrote a blog to counter Conrad’s argument. As a part of his post, he writes, “The future of PR is a return to what should have always been our focus: telling stories effectively, communicating and interacting with people. It’s not a business function; it’s a human function.” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ellenm53</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellenm53</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Twitter Comment by @ellenm53 (Ellen Mrja)&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;div style=&#039;float:left;margin-right:10px;padding:0;width:60px;height:60px;background:url(http://www.chatcatcher.com/images/picbg.jpg) no-repeat top;&#039;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style=&#039;float:left;margin-left:-70px;margin-right:10px;padding:0;width:60px;height:60px;background:url(http://static.twitter.com/images/default_profile_normal.png) no-repeat top;&#039;&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Mike Keliher on why Journalism Schools Should Keep PR:  [link to post] @mjkeliher&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; - http://twitter.com/ellenm53/statuses/1100836393&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; - Posted using Chat Catcher </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Twitter Comment by @ellenm53 (Ellen Mrja)</strong></p>
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<p>Mike Keliher on why Journalism Schools Should Keep PR:  [link to post] @mjkeliher</p>
<p> &#8211; <a href="http://twitter.com/ellenm53/statuses/1100836393" >http://twitter.com/ellenm53/statuses/1100836393</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael J</title>
		<link>http://www.unjournalism.com/2008/12/30/why-journalism-school-is-the-right-place-for-pr-students/comment-page-1/#comment-30197</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My trick is to keep the computer on the kitchen table. In between making dinner and watching the tube, it&#039;s a great way to maintain an interesting conversation.

Whenever you&#039;re ready, c&#039;mon over my house....
http://sellingprint.blogspot.com/2009/01/journalism-or-public-relations.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My trick is to keep the computer on the kitchen table. In between making dinner and watching the tube, it&#8217;s a great way to maintain an interesting conversation.</p>
<p>Whenever you&#8217;re ready, c&#8217;mon over my house&#8230;.<br />
<a href="http://sellingprint.blogspot.com/2009/01/journalism-or-public-relations.html" >http://sellingprint.blogspot.com/2009/01/journalism-or-public-relations.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bill Sledzik</title>
		<link>http://www.unjournalism.com/2008/12/30/why-journalism-school-is-the-right-place-for-pr-students/comment-page-1/#comment-30193</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Sledzik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the beauty of the medium, isn&#039;t it? Just wish I had all day to do this. Hmm. Come to think of it, I did spend all day online. No work &#039;til next week!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the beauty of the medium, isn&#8217;t it? Just wish I had all day to do this. Hmm. Come to think of it, I did spend all day online. No work &#8217;til next week!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Keliher</title>
		<link>http://www.unjournalism.com/2008/12/30/why-journalism-school-is-the-right-place-for-pr-students/comment-page-1/#comment-30192</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Keliher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hijack away, guys. Or don&#039;t. But if you pick up the conversation elsewhere, let me know when and where.

Thanks for continuing to make the comments section of this post a far better read than the original post ever was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hijack away, guys. Or don&#8217;t. But if you pick up the conversation elsewhere, let me know when and where.</p>
<p>Thanks for continuing to make the comments section of this post a far better read than the original post ever was.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Sledzik</title>
		<link>http://www.unjournalism.com/2008/12/30/why-journalism-school-is-the-right-place-for-pr-students/comment-page-1/#comment-30190</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Sledzik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We probably shouldn&#039;t hijack Mike&#039;s blog this way, but I&#039;m unlikely to get to an original post on this real soon. Lots in the queue right now. But if you post, I&#039;ll join in. Prompt me, OK? I&#039;m not the best at checking the feeds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We probably shouldn&#8217;t hijack Mike&#8217;s blog this way, but I&#8217;m unlikely to get to an original post on this real soon. Lots in the queue right now. But if you post, I&#8217;ll join in. Prompt me, OK? I&#8217;m not the best at checking the feeds.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael J</title>
		<link>http://www.unjournalism.com/2008/12/30/why-journalism-school-is-the-right-place-for-pr-students/comment-page-1/#comment-30188</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,
 You have me with the day job vs no paying client.  That makes sense. 

The other points you raise need a longer discussion  about what is the real difference is between what we have called &quot;PR&quot; and what we have called &quot;journalism.&quot;

If you are interested in continuing, it could be your blog, or mine, or right here. I have your blog and this one on my RSS.

In any case, I have a feeling there is something to learn by trying to make clear the real distinctions and similarities between the two professions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,<br />
 You have me with the day job vs no paying client.  That makes sense. </p>
<p>The other points you raise need a longer discussion  about what is the real difference is between what we have called &#8220;PR&#8221; and what we have called &#8220;journalism.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you are interested in continuing, it could be your blog, or mine, or right here. I have your blog and this one on my RSS.</p>
<p>In any case, I have a feeling there is something to learn by trying to make clear the real distinctions and similarities between the two professions.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael J</title>
		<link>http://www.unjournalism.com/2008/12/30/why-journalism-school-is-the-right-place-for-pr-students/comment-page-1/#comment-30185</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,

 You have me with the day job with a paying client  vs  a day job that the real client - the reader - doesn&#039;t pay the bill. That makes sense. 

The other points you raise need a longer discussion  about what is the real difference is between what we have called &quot;PR&quot; and what we have called &quot;journalism.&quot;

If you are interested in continuing, it could be your blog, or mine, or right here. I have your blog and this one on my RSS.

In any case, I have a feeling there is something to learn by trying to make clear the real distinctions and similarities between the two professions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p> You have me with the day job with a paying client  vs  a day job that the real client &#8211; the reader &#8211; doesn&#8217;t pay the bill. That makes sense. </p>
<p>The other points you raise need a longer discussion  about what is the real difference is between what we have called &#8220;PR&#8221; and what we have called &#8220;journalism.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you are interested in continuing, it could be your blog, or mine, or right here. I have your blog and this one on my RSS.</p>
<p>In any case, I have a feeling there is something to learn by trying to make clear the real distinctions and similarities between the two professions.</p>
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